A “Lost Couple of Decades…” says Comstock partners.
Yesterday, we estimated that it would take 19 years for the economy to complete its de-leveraging. It was not a very scientific estimate. But total debt has gone down about $2 trillion over the last 24 months. So, if it continued at that rate, it would take about 19 years to erase the extraordinary amount of debt built up in the bubble years.
Now, along comes the Comstock crowd with roughly the same guess – two decades. They figure that the savings rate will go up to 10% and that the effect of taking that money out of the consumer economy will be to put the United States into a long, soft slump – just as we predicted in our first book.
And there’s another reason to expect a very long period of downsizing: that’s just the way economies work. Market cycles are very long. Interest rates went up from the Great Depression all the way to the Reagan Administration. Then, they went down…and may still be going down. Stocks go up and down in cycles that last 30-40 years, peak to peak. The peak in ’29 was followed by another peak in ’66, which was followed by another peak in ’99.
Economic cycles are long too. Consumer debt, compared to disposable income, hit a low in 1945. It went up for the next 62 years. It only peaked out in 2007. If the chart were symmetrical, the process of deleveraging (getting rid of debt) would show a downtrend until 2069!
And maybe it will.
But there’s no point in looking that far ahead. What we have in front of us is the opening stage of a depression…a market crash followed by a major economic re-adjustment. The new reality is that consumer demand is down…and will stay down for a very long time, at least until debt has reached more manageable proportions. Ken Rogoff says that will take 6-8 years. We say it could take 19 years. There’s about $20 trillion in excess private sector debt to be eliminated. It will take time to get rid of it.
And it will take time to re-jig the world’s economies to the new economic realities.
John Hussman explains…
“If we knew that this was a standard economic downturn, we might conclude that the recent improvements are durable. However, nothing convinces us that this is a standard economic downturn.
“Call me skeptical. But if you look carefully at the economic data that shows improvement, and correct for the impact of government outlays, it is difficult to find anything but continued deterioration in private demand and investment. What we do see is a government that has run what is now a trillion dollar deficit year-to-date, representing some 7% of GDP. That sort of tab will undoubtedly buy some amount of Kool-Aid, but it has been something of a disappointment to watch how eagerly investors have guzzled it down. It is not at all clear that short-term, deficit-financed improvement necessarily implies sustained growth in the context of a deleveraging cycle. This is like somebody borrowing money from their Uncle and then celebrating that their income has gone up.
“When markets crashes are coupled with changes in the fundamentals that supported the preceding bubble – as we observed in the post-1929 market, the gold market of the 1980’s, and the post-1990 Japanese market, and currently observe in the deflation of the recent debt bubble – they typically do not recover quickly. Indeed, the hallmark of these post-crash markets is the very extended sideways adjustment that they experience, generally for many years.”
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